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 Post subject: Rookie Team of the Year
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:54 pm 
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Iv'e been asked to create rules for Rookie Team of the Year.

Some thoughts are:
- A rookie team must never have cooked in a sanctioned KCBS or MABA four category BBQ contest. Experience in sanctioned "Backyard" grilling events geared for amateurs are allowed.
- Rookie teams must declare their rookie status prior to competing in events for that calendar year. No pro-rating of earned points prior to declaration. Declaration can be made by: 1) email to the sanctioning committee or to any board member,
2) notification on membership application or renewal, or
3) on the MABA member's profile on the website......
- Follows MABA TOY rules. Rookie of the Year (ROY) designation is for overall ranking only and not individual categories. A Rookie team's points count toward overall TOY and TOY for individual categories competing against all other teams. A rookie team may win ROY and TOY within the same year.
- A competition season is defined as January 1 through December 31st of a given year. A Rookie team's point totals will not carry over to the following year regardless of any partial year membership.


Some problems I forsee are:

How can we keep teams from changing their name each year, under different team members applying to MABA, to create a “rookie team” each year? Or members from old (other) teams from previous years?

Any thoughts? Opinions?

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie Team of the Year
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I would like to believe that folks would police themselves, but in reality we all know that there are some who would do anything for recognition. I would think if they listed their team members as part of their submission, MABA could check to see if any were "head cooks" at an event. Add to that, if any MABA member observes a established veteran cook, proving more than advice to a team, then it should be reported to the board for a decision as to their status.

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie Team of the Year
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:24 am 
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Big Ugly's BBQ wrote:
I would like to believe that folks would police themselves, but in reality we all know that there are some who would do anything for recognition. I would think if they listed their team members as part of their submission, MABA could check to see if any were "head cooks" at an event. Add to that, if any MABA member observes a established veteran cook, proving more than advice to a team, then it should be reported to the board for a decision as to their status.

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Well then, may I be the first declared MABA "rookie" for the 2010 season? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie Team of the Year
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:01 pm 
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Big Ugly's BBQ wrote:
I would like to believe that folks would police themselves, but in reality we all know that there are some who would do anything for recognition. I would think if they listed their team members as part of their submission, MABA could check to see if any were "head cooks" at an event. Add to that, if any MABA member observes a established veteran cook, proving more than advice to a team, then it should be reported to the board for a decision as to their status.

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Agree with Chris I would hope that people would be honest, however it would be embarassing if you had experience and did poorly I do like the idea.


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 Post subject: Re: Rookie Team of the Year
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Realistically, no one can be at every event and check every team.
We may just have to rely on honesty and hope someone would help report any infraction.

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie Team of the Year
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:39 pm 
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If they do well enough to gain ROY status, folks will get to know who most of the memebers are. If they show up for their award the second year with a different name but the same player's, people will notice.

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie Team of the Year
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:53 pm 
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ok so would a team like myself fit or qualify
2009 first year
first comp last year pork in the park
finished 50th or so out of 92
26th brisket
40ish pork
2nd comp seaside hieghts
finished 18th overall out of 30
3rd in pork-walked
4th in chicken-walked
28th brisket
3rd comp dover
finished 11th overall out of 81
12th chicken
1st ribs-walked
20th pork
56th brisket

after dover i signed up for maba and kcbs because i am hooked

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie Team of the Year
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:05 pm 
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Well, if we had a Rookie of the Year standing last year, you may have done well.
This "Rookie of the Year" standings will start this 2010 season.

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie Team of the Year
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:44 am 
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I don't think that anyone could slip through as a rookie with out someone noticing. Maybe if someone was competing out west and moved here I can't see them keeping it a secret.

I'd like to see "rookie" defined to allow some previous cooking experience. It's a matter of which comes first. MABA isn't a household name. I think most of our members heard about us at comps they were competing in. So where should the cut off be? Observing a team once? Cooking with a team a couple times? Cooking as a team 3 times?

Also most teams don't do as many comps as some of the more seasoned teams. Maybe we should use the top 3 finishes... That would level the field a bit. I also see the logic of not limiting it to 3. After all it's Team of the Year. And teams should be rewarded for there efforts. Any thoughts?

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie Team of the Year
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:52 pm 
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VA BBQ Pirates wrote:
I don't think that anyone could slip through as a rookie with out someone noticing. Maybe if someone was competing out west and moved here I can't see them keeping it a secret.

I'd like to see "rookie" defined to allow some previous cooking experience. It's a matter of which comes first. MABA isn't a household name. I think most of our members heard about us at comps they were competing in. So where should the cut off be? Observing a team once? Cooking with a team a couple times? Cooking as a team 3 times?

Why would "rookie" be defined as anything other that a first year team with a raw, no comp experience cook?
Tom, I'm not sure what you are asking.



Also most teams don't do as many comps as some of the more seasoned teams. Maybe we should use the top 3 finishes... That would level the field a bit. I also see the logic of not limiting it to 3. After all it's Team of the Year. And teams should be rewarded for there efforts. Any thoughts?


There is already a scoring system in place, Why not just leave it as is?. Speaking from experience, I don't think prior knowledge of this award would have changed the number of comps that we competed in last year. Which was our rookie year. But hey that's just me.

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